I have ruled out most of the specialties and Im now down to Radiology Vs. Ophthalmology. Master of Medicine (MMed) is a postgraduate academic degree awarded by medical schools to physicians following a period of instruction and examination. Still hard to get a job in a major city - it takes work all every step of the way. (personal preference). Because of the continuous deluge of pathologists, from Canadian residency programs, the USA, and foreign countries, hospitals can be unfair and abusive because there will always be a replacement. Robots already are doing parts of some surgeries - people plan the operation in the sense that they tell the machine what to do and then the machine "figures out" how to do it. There are no nights or weekends in pathology, and in Ontario you still get the home call stipend if your program does call. Though rad people are totally rad, smartest guys and gals I know. Residency only lasts so long, ha. Let's face it - salary is simple. This surgical field allows you to care for patients of all ages, treat and identify systemic diseases, and … this is just something we are all going to have deal with in the coming future. I love nothing more than freaking out ordering docs by showing the imaging findings and then describing why they match the patients clinical picture, (rad with a stethoscope - freaking out people since 2013). You cannot compete basically - we tell you what is wrong, then you fix it). While in radiology you will get good start … More people to follow up with person who provides said treatment. Currently those are ophthalmologists, though maybe one day machines can do the lasers and injections (kinda freaky to me, very Dead-Space esque). When this happens, the eye … How to use? actually I would push back a bit on that - these sorts of AI advances always start with some form of human/machine team up and eventually leads to reduced human labour. Your insights have been very helpful to me. We might develop diagnosis machines but at least in our careers i don't believe we will have fully autonomous robotic doctors and I can assure you doctors will not be the first ones taking welfare there are a whole list of jobs that will be supplanted first. The one employers tend to focus the most on is "turnaround time". Academic Radiology publishes original reports of clinical and laboratory investigations in diagnostic imaging, the diagnostic use of radioactive isotopes, computed tomography, positron emission … So not really a big difference there either - just how things are done. Have you considered that? There are remote community hospitals that will hire a non-board-eligible pathologist from say Pakistan rather than an FRCPC pathologist, because the former has to sign return-of-service agreements and will stay. The point isn't that the machine will show up and do the surgery without a person - at least not right away. That is a ton of information but it is what makes things fun. Most switched to other programs (going either to family medicine one way, or to other highly competitive ones the other way - it was funny like that).   You cannot paste images directly. Lots of people in pathology are IMGs, and not good ones. The residents come out and match to top fellowships without issue, there is a perfect pass rate for well over a decade on the boards (so long that no one seems to remember the last failure) .....the residency program is respected is what I am getting at, and that helps with the hiring down the line. Not trying to "sell" path here but that is a job without call, and absolutely busy and stressful yes but still relatively 8-5 type job. Nope, but hey, they are both fee-for-service, aren't they? People will tell you that stigma doesn't matter. I guess what I'm saying is that do it only if you really can't see yourself tolerating … IM (cardiology, endocrine, gastro) are all something I would consider. I do enjoy having "some" patient interaction and building rapport and long-term relationships with them. At some centers the volumes have gone up almost double in the last few years, yet the pathologists are not paid more for it, nor are extra pathologists brought in to cover the work. Don't expect the fields to permanently remain top of the pay scale - I am not. Paste as plain text instead, × The documents and resources housed within this section are provided by the Review Committee for Ophthalmology and its staff at the ACGME to assist ACGME-accredited programs and those applying for accreditation in this specialty area and its applicable subspecialties. With advances in technology you can be scrolling through 50 fine abdominal CT cuts at 3 AM while being paged by 6 different services...that didn't seem too fun for me. However, fees are being cut (especially in Ontario). I found this old thread on pathology and incorporation, which has good info from a few posters here: http://forums.premed101.com/index.php?/topic/73286-anatomical-pathology-vs-family-med/, (2013 doesn't seem that long ago, but I have no recollection of ever posting in it :/). There are a lot of sub-specialties in ophthal. An MRI technologist is a radiologic technologist who specializes in … Or, we can revert back to primitive times and just let the pigeons do it.   Your link has been automatically embedded. I would encourage med students to explore as many different specialties as possible. 2 1. By … It is faster, more accurate and better for patients. automated lab work. It's very rare for individual ophthalmologists now to start their own clinic independently. The program is tough, the 2 hours of teaching daily is tough, and man the call is tough. If you want to earn more money I'm sure there are ways to do it in radiology or ophthalmology. It reduces professional freedom. The days are very busy - when the government cut the fees the rads responded by just doing more work as there was simply more work to do over time. Rads is definitely being targeted now - IBM among other is putting a lot of money into it. If he does it at one of the two major lab companies, he bills about fifty bucks, which the lab corporations shave by 70 to 80%. I mean I know that is probably hard to process earlier on but by the time you get closer to the end (which for some reason I just kind of noticed - gezz I am only 16 months away from graduating) concern shifts more to overall lifestyle rather than just focusing on one single factor. By This kind of reputation carries over into clinical medicine, where my attendings on essentially every rotation asked me why a "normal" person is in pathology - other physicians generally expect pathology residents to be not so good IMGs or unbearably weird Canadians. Besides the life style aspect, I think I really value having a private clinic in the long run. now for the real differences - with incorporation you get to play two big things - one is you can potentially income split but having your family as members in your corporation under specific rules (not just everyone ha). Others are so bad I honestly wonder if they are actually physicians from other countries, or if they are somehow fraudulent. There will be radiologists for sure, the question is how many radiologists will we need and what will happen to pay. You also have to really like not seeing patients. Another help me decide post! Thanks guys! Clinical exam skills are important but they really have diminished in importance with all the images (I can tell you if there is appendicitis with at least 98% accuracy vs all that 60-70% accuracy physical exam stuff. They want general pathologists while we mostly train anatomical, so the two or three Canadian GP residents are ok, but all the AP ones are not. If AI came out tomorrow what would happen is rads would simply be using it to generate CT reports 10x faster than they are now. Not to belabour the issue of income as I know this isn't the most important factor, but what is the current income range for a radiologist compared to a pathologist's 300-400k? For me, there's nothing better than enjoying the view behind a 20 D lens and an indirect headset, no matter how busy clinic and you're stressed. You will work and work hard but if you do there are rewards in the end. Cyperknife surgery for tumours in another example - we basically tell a computer what to destroy and it destroys it in the least damaging why to the rest. These two fields are similar in several ways (visual, diagnostic, cerebral). Thank you guys so much for your time, you guys are amazing. Also, what are your thoughts on teleradiology? I really don't know if that number is accurate, do you have a source? PEople are still talking about Charles Smith. Trying to get a desirable job in the Golden Horseshoe is near impossible without an in or a few fellowships. You'll see it in residency programs too. that is one big reason we haven't done it yet. You'll see this in most centers. Even if a radiologist makes a mistake that gets published in the news, their hospitals and professional soceities are quick to silence it. We work evenings, they do not. Radiology and anesthesia, two other background fields, aren't so stigmatized. At least that's my take. That's why I am warning students. I am really concerned if I'm making the right decision to put all my focus on ophtho. Pathologists are persona non grata in the news. Contrast that to something like internal medicine where you are on Q3 call sometimes, and up all night, doing mostly mundane work nurses don't want to do. I would also support Lactic Folly on the earlier remarks of how fluild things are - we aren't even sure there is going to BE incorporation in the future. Look at the collaboration with Deep Mind (from Google) and a recent gorgeous publication in JAMA in regards to machine learning for screening diabetic retinopathy: http://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/2588763 . That's another issue: we are training far too many pathologists. But if they rush, they might make errors and get vilified in the press. Why don't you inquire in your school's ophthalmology interest group in re: to speaking with some residents and your concerns? I think you really need to immerse yourself into the field and decide early if this is the right specialty for you. In anatomy, the orbital septum (palpebral fascia) is a membranous sheet that acts as the anterior (frontal) boundary of the orbit.It extends from the orbital rims to … However, as I mentioned above, many pathologists are part of a group pension plan (even a very generous defined benefit plan) which other docs don't have, which is worth a LOT of money over the years and in some cases means they actually make around the same as many radiologists. that isn't a bad financial place to be ha. I feel like ophtho is a specialty you'll know if you like or don't like once you shadow it. They could just spend their complete salary and know they would be fine. I don't think I want to work so hard during medical school, spend 5 years of my life in residency, earn a relatively low in come for the first 5 years or so, etc. Point is to reinforce the idea that radiology is no longer a walk in the park - not during training, and not after. it should be noted that the pathologist pensions are worth the equivalent of millions by the end of the careers so you really do have to factor them into the calculation. Or surgery for PDR complications such as VH or tractional RD's, which can further lead to PVR and more surgery. It is clearly under attack. So many rads have made a living doing non radiology work. There were 5 or 6 actually ( an update due to it now being 2020) that I know of that for a variety of reasons left the program. Anatomical pathology is oversaturated. In the radiology section of CPT 2005, the following changes to ophthalmic codes went into effect last month. It may precede the onset of abnormal thyroid function, occur concurrently, or commence following its onset. I cannot see myself doing major/open surgeries (like ortho, plastics, etc.) OAP because it marginalizes pathologists, and OMA because it acts as a deprofessionalizing index case for other hospital based fields. the acuity drives the lifestyle. Bottom line I think in the end is you have to enjoy the work, be reasonably happy with the pay. Upload or insert images from URL. See what you enjoy more and the money will come. dr. wong hit the nail of the head I think for the other factors of lifestyle - longer hours, more call etc is directly lifestyle. The amount of slander against pathology in this thread is unfortunate. When calcification is seen of the posterior half of the globe, it could relate to any of the layers (scleral, choroidal or retinal), as it is not possible to separate them out on CT.. Retinal. I wouldn't take anything over getting paid $350,000 a year for 50 hours of work a week, have reasonable control over my daily schedule, not having to run a clinic or be stuck in the OR, and very light, if not non-existent, call. in an employment survey stated that 1/5 ophthalmology grads in the past 5 years do not have a job placement and 1/5 do not have OR time. I'd argue that for the amount of work pathologists in this country do, they are extremely generously compensated. You don't get to do that on salary. 1) I'm not sure even I have the correct numbers. Both have pros and cons but I'm leaning more towards Ophtho at this point as I really prefer to have my own private clinic in the long run as opposed to working in a hospital for the rest of my life. Another news article by the NP states here: http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/canadian-doctors-warn-fee-cuts-pay-inequalities-will-spur-exodus , with a quote by an ophthalmologist re: billings. It is Radiology, Ophthalmology, Anesthesiology and Dermatology. That is higher losses proportionally than general surgery ha - people just don't see it coming). We keep advancing to that point - but we have yet to have the conversation of what happens when get there. That's my take on pathology. Psychiatry is another one. Review of Ophthalmology highlights current, clinically relevant information on surgical techniques, disease diagnosis and management and new technologies So please please please don't worry about the money. People are still talking about Windsor. The following specialties offer advanced positions (some of these may also have programs which offer categorical positions): urology, ophthalmology, dermatology, diagnostic radiology, radiation oncology, physical medicine and rehabilitation, neurology, psychiatry and anesthesiology. It should be easy to decide what you like after a couple times shadowing. general ophthalmology ophthalmic pathology & oncology vitreoretinal diseases neuro-ophthalmology ophthalmic imaging pediatric ophthalmology & strabismus cornea and external disease glaucoma ocular immunology and uveitis ophthalmic plastic surgery allied and associated ophthalmic personnel optometry ophthalmology series I cannot see why OAP and OMA haven't been persistent in fighting this. Source : journal Ophthalmology Medha She covers several medical specialties including Cardiac Sciences, Dentistry, Diabetes and Endo, Diagnostics, ENT, Gastroenterology, Neurosciences, and Radiology. 17, No. I agree that I have to pick what I enjoy the most but knowing myself, in the future, I really would like to have the time to spend with my family/children so life style is as important (if not more) as how much I enjoy my work when it comes to picking between the different specialties. Thing with rads is that it could be targeted for cuts and I still can't get it out of my head that a radiologists job could be taken over or supplanted by machine learning in the future. For example, I really didn't like dermatology (based on my exposure) - which is why it is not on my list, although they are known to have a good life-style. Will it be like the ER doc shift work model, where doctors work a 10-12 hour shift constantly rotating through days and nights? This effectively means that other than paying into this plan, they don't need to save anything else for retirement and will have no financial worries for life. Ophthalmology is not exempt from AI learning (actually one of the cooler parts I'm interested in!). Before we were able to just draw our shielding but with the new Stereotactic techniques, we have to contour ALOT more than we used to. Ophthalmology Orthopaedic Surgery Otolaryngology – Head and Neck Surgery Pathology Pediatrics Physical Medicine and Rehabilitation Plastic Surgery Preventive Medicine Psychiatry and Neurology Radiology … Most of it still holds true, with the technologies he described as on the horizon (cardiac CT and virtual CT colonography) now in mainstream use. The pathology residents are mostly FMGs and very awkward, and very easily picked on. Clear editor. That wasn't a negative - it was a positive. The tenuous political status of pathology, the absence of autonomous practice, the lower recruitment standards, and its history of often being marginalized and stigmatized are more important. Ophthalmology Orthopedics Pathology & Lab Medicine Pediatrics Plastic Surgery Psychiatry Public Health Pulmonary Medicine Radiology Rheumatology Transplantation Urology … Pathology has to be the only thing you want to do, and that you have ruled out imaging entirely. I expect the same kind of stigma once I'm a staff. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. yeah I don't know why people keep saying path doesn't pay much...all the ones I know make $300-400K salary, do very light call, and have benefits and a large pension plan (similar to nurses, but obviously with a much larger benefit). Diagnostics, Imaging, and Therapeutics Residencies, Resources for Med School, Residencies, and Practising Physicians. 68 Ga-FAPI was Superior in Detecting Gastric, Duodenal, and Colorectal Cancers . Neuro-Ophthalmology Review Manual Seventh Edition Edition Practical Neuroophthalmology 1st Edition 2014-2015 Basic and Clinical Science Course (BCSC): Section 5: Neuro-Ophthalmology 1st Edition Neuro-Ophthalmology 26 Frontiers in Oncology, Vol.   You cannot paste images directly. When looking for an eye doctor, you may be deciding whether to go to a optometrist vs. ophthalmologist. In terms of contouring - yeah they suck yet that problem is basically a key subset what would need to be done to replace radiology with AI (you have to be able to segment out an organ and know what it is critical to have a radiology AI system) so if rads goes then AI would be able to very likely to radiation oncology planning as well, perhaps eventually with even better contouring (again notice they are already trying to do it - once they start doing something it just get progressively better over time. Current 3rd year- just finished with an ophthalmology rotation and really enjoyed it, but not … LMAO at “other specialties don’t tell you how to … Which is better radiology vs ophthalmology? Some docs would be perfectly happy on salary - they find all of the billing and associate practice management annoying. It's a lose-lose situation. If you check the recruitment agencies there are rare rural jobs and they don't pay any significant premium for your sequestration. The invitation contained a … In an oral presentation for COS 2015, Manusow et al. I want to really make sure it is clear that this is NOT unique to the centre but perhaps this one had it a bit worse because it is a harder program or maybe just bad luck - it lost a resident give or take once a year for a while there. If anything the fastest robots could take over would be 20 years in my opinion and by that time we will all have had jobs and seniority enough that it will be the next generation who will have issues finding jobs. We’re Dr. Jon and Dr. Chris, two interventional radiologists working at Great Lakes Medical Imaging. In order to reap the benefits of the pension you become stuck at the institution despite better opportunities opening elsewhere. Ophthalmologists and optometrists are both health-care professionals who specialize in the eyes and visual systems, but significant differences exist between the two … I posted a long thesis that a grad student did here a while ago that outlines the history of pathology in Ontario. Cons-It is very hard to get into a Radiology Residency Program upon completion of medical school-You have to complete a 5-6 year residency. Crazy times ha! I only applied to path residencies. For the first (left) eye, code 76519–LT. Diagnostic radiologists use a variety of imaging procedures to see inside the body and assess or diagnose the patient’s condition. this skips the technical details but gives a taste: http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/12/health/robot-surgeon-bowel-operation/. The computers do play a role in the planning but our current AIs are terrible at contouring. I saw people earning in seven figures per month from ophthalmology but it takes time to reach at that stage. This is an excellent post from Ian Wong in 2006. To get into things like imaging or surgery as an IMG, there has to be good reasons to take the IMG over interested CMGs since competition is so high. 27 votes, 43 comments. Also, what are your thoughts on teleradiology? mediix, May 2, 2017 in Surgery and Surgical Subspecialty Residencies. we still (for now) earn more than pathologists although our income is falling - probably will remain higher for some time to come. Welcome to the Radiology Assistant Educational site of the Radiological Society of the Netherlands by Robin Smithuis MD It is a fairly competitive specialty (but nothing compared to derm, plastics) if you look at the CaRMS stats this year, so it's important to get started early if you can. If you like something don't forget that you could potentially also go to the states where the situation may be different and as it stands the US can often absorb a sizeable number of Canadians based on its size alone. agreed with Cains synopsis of pathology. They simply had fewer docs doing more procedures for maximum pay. Eye problems. The radiology residents are by and large well put together. All MDs are remunerated very well and a difference in income of 100K here and there should not be a determining factor in making your a career choice. You'll find naysayers about everyfield, I would only go into ophtho if you love eyes and doing tiny microprocedures. The former is carcinogenic (with the tumors being such wonderfully fatal ones as AML and nasopharyngeal carcinoma), the latter is disgusting. Job market for rads is slowing opening up which is good - the average age of a rad is actually quite up there (mid 50s last time I checked) so bluntly that has to open up at some point. My reasoning is that surgery is still incredibly complex and I don't believe we will be able to just press a button and expect the robot to do the surgery from start to finish with all the complications that occur and surprises that we find. It is kind of fun doing microscopic work and trying to figure out diagnoses. The only difference, as I have alluded to above, is that Canadian pathologists do not have the USA option. Rather than expounding on the ways that a career in pathology can be highly fulfilling for various people, I strongly suggest that people interested in path vs. rads do an elective rotation each in path and radiology to figure out which is right for them. Find an Ophthalmologist. Rads is also easily exportable/offshore-able. Coloboma is a collective term encompassing any focal discontinuity in the structure of the eye, and should not be confused with staphylomas, which are due to choroidal thinning.. In 2019, 967 candidates applied for 278 posts (3.48 applicants for each available post) 1. I know the news talks about shortages and stuff, but they don't know what they're talking about and are really only referring to forensics. You can argue (and we do) that now radiology is actually much harder than before to push back against some of the reductions (for one thing a CT now has multi plane reconstructions, thin slices with bone and soft tissue windows and over 4 times the images in each plane. One is surgical so focuses on fixing problems and doing procedures. 4 years ago doing a lot of radiology call and getting the squeeze probably not so much. Pathology's best comparison is radiology, and from what I know about both fields, the latter is a far better choice in all ways except perhaps lifestyle (though I do know some 'mommy-track' radiologists who work four days a week at echo chambers or outpatient clinics and still earn more than full time pathologists, so it's not as bad as people think). 10 Journal of Venomous Animals and Toxins including Tropical Diseases, Vol. Next year is my fifth year and it will be pure study time to grind me to the floor Probably 4 hours a day after work and 12 hours each weekend day for 12 straight months. to reinforce this I think every single one of the radiology and pathology residents on this thread has warned about the dangers of putting too much into the flat out income. What other people think of you is important. Through my internship I enjoyed other fields as much if not more than pathology but am stuck with it unless I go down south. I went by the nature of the work, liked my rotations and my mentors, but failed to determine the nature of the field itself, and I am disappointed. That's the truth. 3) I think that job availability is a concern, particularly OR time. CNV vs normal 1 100 100 100 DMO vs normal 0.999 98.20 96.80 99.60 Drusen vs normal 0.999 99 98 99.20 De Fauw et al43 2018 Urgent, semiurgent, routine and observation only Topcon 997 … oh absolutely - I mean we can simply do more. There are COS abstracts to support this - I think the 2016 COS poster stated that there were concerns that a lack of retirement (or increased productivity) from older physicians may be influencing an age-bias for billings (Greene et al, COS poster abstract 2016). made this determination and stuck by it, and is happy, and that's great. That also you potentially to income split - in canada income tax rates increase at higher income levels - it is better to be two 200K people than one 400K person under the tax law. 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